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Prince Vegeta
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PostSubject: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeThu Feb 11, 2016 3:49 pm

What kind of calculations do you guys do for transformations ik the basics for Super Saiyan but what about fusions and such. Here's what I have. I'll add on to the list if you guys have stuff to add.

Saiyan Transformations
Great Ape: x10 Base (Provided by Daizenshuu)
Super Saiyan: x50 Base (Provided by Daizenshuu)
Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: x75 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)
Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: x100 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)
Super Saiyan Full Power: x100 Base, x2 SS (Provided by SSbardock84)
Super Saiyan 2: x100 Base, x2 SS (Provided by SEG)
Super Saiyan 3: X400 Base, x8 SS, X4 SS2 (Provided by SEG)
Ultimate Saiyan: x5,000 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)
Saiyan Beyond: x1,000 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)
Super Saiyan Red: x1,000 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)
Super Saiyan Blue: x10,000 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)
Golden Great Ape: x500 Base (May need changed) (Provided by SSbardock84)
Super Saiyan 4: x5,000 Base (Provided by SSbardock84)

Frieza's Transformations
2nd Form: +530,000 1st Form
3rd Form: +530,000 2nd Form
4th Form 1%: +1,410,000 3rd Form

Fusion
Fusion Dance: x20 of one fuser's power (Provided by SSbardock84)
Potara Fusion: x2,500 of each fuser's power (Provided by SSbardock84)
Rival Potara Fusion: x10,000 of one fuser's power (Provided by SSbardock84)


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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 13, 2016 4:52 pm

Thats what I think its supposed to be for Super Saiyans, but I have no idea what for fusions. I can look into it for you though.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 13, 2016 4:59 pm

I'll see if I can find anything as well if I have time. If you do find anything I'll add it to my Opening Post.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 4:14 pm

What I use for Super Saiyan Red is x1,000 and for Super Saiyan Blue is x10,000. Super Saiyan Red has to be at least 10% of Super Saiyan Blue, so that's why there's a large gap in between them.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 4:37 pm

SSbardock84 wrote:
What I use for Super Saiyan Red is x1,000 and for Super Saiyan Blue is x10,000. Super Saiyan Red has to be at least 10% of Super Saiyan Blue, so that's why there's a large gap in between them.

Makes sense to me, I'll add it. I forgot all about this topic I made.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 4:42 pm

I'll post my reasoning on Saiyan beyond god in a separate topic. But I use the same boost for it as Super Saiyan Red. Also for Second Grade Saiyan I use 75x Base and Third Grade saiyan I use 100x Base. Super Saiyan 4 I use 5,000x Base, I've seen others use 800x Base however.

Edit: Here's the link: https://superzenkai.forumotion.com/t108-making-sense-of-two-base-theory#534
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 4:45 pm

SSbardock84 wrote:
I'll post my reasoning on Saiyan beyond god in a separate topic. But I use the same boost for it as Super Saiyan Red. Also for Second Grade Saiyan I use 75x Base and Third Grade saiyan I use 100x Base. Super Saiyan 4 I use 5,000x Base, I've seen others use 800x Base however.

Edit: Here's the link: https://superzenkai.forumotion.com/t108-making-sense-of-two-base-theory#534

I'll definitely add these things. You're going to make this look really cool with all this information. If you any more to add please say so. I'm curious about what you use for fusions and such.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 5:40 pm

I saw your things you have question marks by as well.

Super Saiyan Full Power: 100x Base, it's a complicated one to explain.
Ultimate Saiyan (That's what I have recently started calling it): x5,000 Base
Dance Fusion: x20 of one fuser's power
Potara Fusion: x10,000 of one fuser's power (It was only fortunate that Vegeta and Goku already had equal power levels, in other cases this would not be the case. I'd say for a normal user it'd be x2,500 to both fuser's. Vegeta and Goku's is about x5,000 to both of them. It's greater because of the rival boost.)
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 5:41 pm

SSbardock84 wrote:
I saw your things you have question marks by as well.

Super Saiyan Full Power: 100x Base, it's a complicated one to explain.
Ultimate Saiyan (That's what I have recently started calling it): x5,000 Base
Dance Fusion: x20 of one fuser's power
Potara Fusion: x10,000 of one fuser's power (It was only fortunate that Vegeta and Goku already had equal power levels, in other cases this would not be the case. I'd say for a normal user it'd be x2,500 to both fuser's. Vegeta and Goku's is about x5,000 to both of them. It's greater because of the rival boost.)

Awesome, thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 5:45 pm

Prince Vegeta wrote:
SSbardock84 wrote:
I saw your things you have question marks by as well.

Super Saiyan Full Power: 100x Base, it's a complicated one to explain.
Ultimate Saiyan (That's what I have recently started calling it): x5,000 Base
Dance Fusion: x20 of one fuser's power
Potara Fusion: x10,000 of one fuser's power (It was only fortunate that Vegeta and Goku already had equal power levels, in other cases this would not be the case. I'd say for a normal user it'd be x2,500 to both fuser's. Vegeta and Goku's is about x5,000 to both of them. It's greater because of the rival boost.)

Awesome, thanks!

Since I've provided a lot would you mind if I just made edits myself? I can add more things like Frieza's transformations and other transformations seen in the series.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 5:45 pm

SSbardock84 wrote:
Prince Vegeta wrote:
SSbardock84 wrote:
I saw your things you have question marks by as well.

Super Saiyan Full Power: 100x Base, it's a complicated one to explain.
Ultimate Saiyan (That's what I have recently started calling it): x5,000 Base
Dance Fusion: x20 of one fuser's power
Potara Fusion: x10,000 of one fuser's power (It was only fortunate that Vegeta and Goku already had equal power levels, in other cases this would not be the case. I'd say for a normal user it'd be x2,500 to both fuser's. Vegeta and Goku's is about x5,000 to both of them. It's greater because of the rival boost.)

Awesome, thanks!

Since I've provided a lot would you mind if I just made edits myself? I can add more things like Frieza's transformations and other transformations seen in the series.

Yeah, sure it'd be easier that way too.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 5:48 pm

i just noticed you didn't have anything for the giant ape. that might be a good thing to add.

you could also add golden great ape.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeMon Jul 18, 2016 6:04 pm

Raditz wrote:
i just noticed you didn't have anything for the giant ape. that might be a good thing to add.

you could also add golden great ape.

Prince Vegeta is online right now, so I'll add it. Thanks Raditz.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 10:36 am

Added Frieza's transformations. I'll edit them up a bit and add Resurrection 'F' Frieza.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 12:09 pm

Ig i found out what you used for fusion calculation
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 12:14 pm

Raditz wrote:
Ig i found out what you used for fusion calculation

Yep. You can use it if you'd like for that versus topic, but if we have the same power levels we'll come to the same conclusion. But I think you have their strengths different than I do.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 1:24 pm

Some of the later ones seem more opinionated rather than based on fact. Like Ultimate, SSG, SSB, Golden Oozaru, and SS4.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 2:31 pm

Future Trunks wrote:
Some of the later ones seem more opinionated rather than based on fact. Like Ultimate, SSG, SSB, Golden Oozaru, and SS4.

That's sort of the point though. Super Saiyan and Great Ape are provided by Daizenshuu. Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are provided by SEG. We can only determine the rest on our own.
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 3:12 pm

Awesome adds Bardock, it's really coming along well. Thanks for all of your help!
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PostSubject: Re: Calculation Transformation   Calculation Transformation Icon_minitimeTue Jul 19, 2016 3:18 pm

Prince Vegeta wrote:
Awesome adds Bardock, it's really coming along well. Thanks for all of your help!

No problem man!
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